The Sincerist Form of Flattery
I chanced across the English Nationalist Alliance this morning and was staggered to see that they've plagiarised my article on English civic nationalism.
The problem for English nationalists like myself, is that for all our best intentions - arguing for an English parliament that represents all English people regardless of ethnicity - there is no civic nationalism in England, not for immigrants, not for anybody. We English have no collective political representation that allows for an expression of our collective political will, and many or most of our cultural and civic institutions have been appropriated for Britain. Scotland has a Scottish parliament to which all Scots, regardless of ethnicity, elect their Scottish representatives. The Scots also have a National Library of Scotland, a National Portrait Gallery and a National Gallery, and much else besides. Taken apart these things mean little, but taken together an immigrant to Scotland - and I lived there myself for five years - is left in little doubt as to what nation they are in. Minority ethnicities in Scotland are much more likely to prefix their ethnicity with “Scottish” than ethnic minorities in England are inclined to prefix their ethnicity with “English”. In fact ethnic minorities in England almost always refer to themselves as “British-[insert ethnicity here]“. It makes sense as that is how the Government defines them. This fact annoys me greatly, and I think it is divisive and damaging to race-relations in England, but that said I don’t blame the immigrants I blame the political establishment and the race-relations industry.
Without any form of civic nationalism the English seem only to be able to express themselves through sporting tribalism and xenophobia. That is a sweeping statement, but it seems to be the widely held opinion of what Orwell referred to as English intellectuals, particularly those on the left. The Government’s steadfast refusal to allow or build any form of English civic nationalism has created a situation where English pride is exhibited in moments of pure tribalism; St George’s Day and sporting victories are the only times that England’s flag can be waved without accusations of racism. This is wrong, the English flag should fly above the English National Library, the English National Museum, the English Portrait Gallery and, YES, the English Parliament and Executive. Only in that way can we build a civic nationalism for England in which all can take pride. The Government are culpable in making ‘English’ a synonym for ‘Anglo-Saxon’ and in being so they have played into the hands of what Vince Cable refers to as ‘white supremacists’, which - by the way Vince - is not a synonym for “English nationalist”.
And here's what Michael Johnson of the English Nationalist Alliance wrote:
The problem England faces, is arguing for an English parliament that represents all English people regardless of ethnicity - there is no civic nationalism in England, not for immigrants, not for anybody. We English have no collective political representation that allows for an expression of our collective political will, and many or most of our cultural and civic institutions have been appropriated for Britain. Ethnic minorities in England almost always refer to themselves as British; it is then followed by their assumed nationality, British Asian, ECT. It makes sense because that is how the Government defines them. This situation is divisive and damaging to race-relations in England, I don’t blame the immigrants I blame the political establishment and the Party political system that supports this situation to further their own political ambitions. Without any form of civic nationalism the English seem only to be able to express themselves through sporting tribalism and xenophobia. That is a sweeping statement, but it seems to be the widely held opinion of what Orwell referred to as English intellectuals, particularly those on the left.
The Government’s steadfast refusal to allow or build any form of English civic nationalism has created a situation where English pride is exhibited in moments of pure tribalism. St George’s Day and sporting victories are the only times that England’s flag can be waved without accusations of racism. This is wrong, the English flag should fly above the English National Library, the English National Museum, the English Portrait Gallery and, YES, the English Parliament and executive. Only in that way can we build a civic nationalism for England in which all can take pride. Immigrants to England cannot be informed they are British and then be implored to support our English sporting culture. Why should they when they are British not English? Why should they take any note of England’s history or achievements prior to the Act of Union when Britain and their adopted “Britishness” came into being? The sense of Englishness is growing, it has been well documented, and a divide is opening up in England between that part of society who define themselves as English and those that don’t. It is noticeable that those that don’t are overwhelmingly from non-white sections of the population, although it is also noticeable, that some immigrants do refer to themselves as English. I think that this black/West Indian-led revelation has come about through inclusion in English sport mainly football; it certainly hasn’t come about because of our Labour Government; whom constantly seek to define them as Black-British, and whose very policies exclude them from Englishness.
The English Nationalist Alliance is Michael Johnson, English Democrat (ex-England First Party); Bill Baker, ex-English Democrats, and; Lyn Corrigan.
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Robbin' stuff....
Join the club.... I am fed up with people nicking my (mostly graphic) stuff. But you are right - it is a sort of flattery, if still bloody irritating.
Robbing stuff isn't new though, Alexander Graham Bell did it to original 'phone inventor Antonio Meucci... Harvey Firestone never made a penny from his groundbreaking vulcanisation process and the McDonald brothers were screwed out of their hamburger restaurant chain by Ray Croc...
BTW, I am composing a piece particularly about the Eng Dems and to a lesser extent, the whole English movement in general.... Now I'm on the outside of the party looking in so to speak, I really do feel a lot more sort of liberated in what I am saying.... (if you know what I mean;-)
Not as good as 'the Great' nor hopefully as bad as 'the Crap'....
I agree it is out of order to
I agree it is out of order to blatantly use your work. They could have at least linked to your site and given a couple of quotes/text. It is especially surprising to see PPCs do this, have you pointed it out to them Toque? They maybe have just been overly eager to get a site running and not thought about it too much.
The site seems a little strange to me, just a couple of short stories, cut'n pasted poems and pages asking for financial donations. You would expect them to garner some good will on the site before hand.
I am all for more site promoting the English cause, so glad to see it. Would be nice if they used there own material however.
It doesn't much bother me
It doesn't much bother me that they're using my words but it does amuse me, given the rubbishing that my ideas on civic nationalism have received from ethnic English nationalists (an example here). Maybe I'm doing the English Nationalist Alliance a disservice by referring to them as ethnic nationalists, but I don't think so. I cannot imagine that someone who was recently a member of the England First Party agree with me - though perhaps he has mellowed.
Michael johnson
http://englishwarrior.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/michael-johnson-english-d...
Posting
The above post was sent in as a direct copy of the post done by alfred it was also sent in as a guide to Englishness and posted under discussions.
I know as i sent it in,i have followed these posts for a few years and i follow the same sentiments. They differ in some cases but overall they are much the same.
The fact that it was posted under discussions and as the original poster is flattery in the sence that i feel people should read this piece.
There was no attempt at plagiarising the article and it was sent in its entierity, this is not the full article and it has been altered and there are big lumps missing.
How or why this is the case i am not sure but i can assure you that the whole piece was sent in to be posted.
The parts that are missing are the bits that make the article endemic of the situation as it was and still is in England.
I do write my own articles and also produce design and promote election leaflets for many candidates in the English movement.
Why the post was not placed in full i do not know, the only thing i do know and i have pointed out to ENA is they should not put posts on their website that opens with word as it is opened with full rights to the article.
I am not sure if this is still the situation on their site but that was the situation.
Once again this was posted in full and is not as it is posted on their site.
Being the one who sent it in i know.
I would be interested in recieveing your comments or articles on the ideology of bringing togeather all the English groups under one English banner allowing all to keep their identities fighting for singular causes in support of the English cause.
I can assure you they will be posted as they come and they will be credited to the author.
Thanks
Mikejfl
Thank you for your comments
Thank you for your comments Mike. I feel that we've been down this road before, more than once. I'm not a member of any English nationalist party, so I'm the wrong personal to be asking about unifying English nationalist parties, but in my opinion the EDP has been fatally wounded by its dalliance with the EFP.
If the CEP ever united with the EDP, EFP or other party I would leave immediately - the differences are irreconcilable in my opinion. But there's little danger of that because the CEP won't.
CEP
The CEP is a stronger vessel to argue for an EP, the problem is there is too many Nationalist parties out there, all with different agenda and too many ego's running around thinking they know what is best for England and having the audacity to think they can tell someone rather than share an opinion.
My article on Michael Johnson I will stand by, as it is my opinion he was honest when asked about his past, showed where he had changed and was candid in his reply that is what shows good character, but that is my opinion and something I strongly believe in honesty from politicians.
I agree with toque on so many things, he is a English nationalist to be listened to.
Civic nationalism is the path I wish to take, I also slightly lean to cultural nationalism. Toque's insight on these subjects has taught me and helped me to come to the decision of the path I wish to promote and fight for.
Well done to Toque, for being a very good teacher of facts not fiction and basing his opinion around those facts, something I hope I portray in my postings and opinions, as they are all based on fact in my blog too.
Well done for Michael for admitting he used the article and for his explanation.
Warrior