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Say England Cop-out

Hallelujah. The Prime Minister has responded to my petition and I can view it here:

We received a petition asking:

“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to stop saying ‘Our country’ or ‘This country’ when he is talking in relation to devolved issues such as health, education and housing. If Mr Brown is talking about English matters then he should say ‘England’, even if it is politically inconvenient for him to do so.”

Details of Petition:

“There is a tendency amongst politicians of all hues to conflate England and the UK as if devolution had never happened. It’s less complicated that way. But devolution has happened and referring to England as ‘our country’ is confusing to a public that is not always aware that Mr Brown may be talking about policy areas that do not have a direct affect on his own constituents (to whom he is democratically accountable) because in Scotland those areas are the responsibility of MSPs in the Scottish Parliament and Government.

Gordon Brown (Andrew Marr interview, 6 Oct 07): “But what I want to do is show people the vision that we have for the future of this country in housing and health and education and I want the chance, in the next phase of my premiership, to develop and show people the policies that are going to make a huge difference and show the change in the country itself.”

Gordon Brown (PMQs, 10 Oct 07): “We will govern in the interests of the people, and what matters to the people is the health service, education, housing, and we will govern to make education, health and housing better in this country.”

Read the Government’s response

The Prime Minister has been elected by the people of Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath to represent them in the UK Parliament. As Prime Minister he heads the UK Government. It is in this capacity that he speaks when articulating his vision for the future of the country.

The eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed that this is a complete cop-out.

Gordon, you know you're a cunt, and you know you're in the wrong. You also know that you are deliberately conflating England and Britain, or avoiding reference to England completely, in order to mislead the public. Your failure to speak of England when it is England to which you refer, is to regard Britain as "greater England"; to govern England as Britain; to forestall the emergence of a distinctive English polity, and all to legitimise the presence of your grubby Scottish mitts on England's reins. To say that I despise you and everything that you stand for would be an understatement, the best that I can wish for you is a painful lingering death, televised live from a packed Wembley Stadium. Tomorrow would not be soon enough.

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The Ministry of Injustice

I have a post on Our Kingdom in response to the Government's answer to my Say England petition.

After writing that piece for Our Kingdom I received an email notification informing me that my Freedom of Information request had been answered. This what th

Nationwide review across the country

According to press reports there is to be a nationwide review into child protection services following the tragic death of Baby P. All of our esteemed news organs reported it, a small selection is below:

Children's minister Beverley Hughes has now asked

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But if it was televised from

But if it was televised from Wembley Stadium, I expect they would have the team of English executioners standing to attention to listen to GStheQ prior to one end of Gordon's entrails being pulled out and attached to a speeding juggernaut's back bumper...

BTW, when I click on the

BTW, when I click on the link, it comes up as an error - '404 Page Not Found'....

Same thing here Alfie, so

Same thing here Alfie, so logged on to Number 10 web site and typed in the email link address, nothing came up.
Spooky or what !!!!
Going to try your link now Toque.

Hu..no luck there either,

Hu..no luck there either, that just about tells us all we need to know about this evil bunch running England.

Strange. It works fine for

Strange. It works fine for me.

Rebuild the wall and catapult

Rebuild the wall and catapult Brown and his Scottish, socialist comrades back over it.

Make that the Antonine

Make that the Antonine wall...it's payback time!

"The Prime Minister has been

"The Prime Minister has been elected by the people of Kirkcaldy & Cowdenbeath to represent them in the UK Parliament. As Prime Minister he heads the UK Government. It is in this capacity that he speaks when articulating his vision for the future of the country."

Logical analysis: if the UK and England are separate entities, this proves that in his capacity as de facto prime minister for England, Brown is unelected - elected only to represent his constituents in the UK parliament and to head the UK government; therefore no electoral mandate from / for England; similarly, his vision for 'the country' is not a vision for England as such, just the UK.

If the UK and England are identical, this means that Brown's vision for the country is just that: a vision, not something he can implement for 'the country' as a whole, and certainly not for his constituents. We'd be entitled to ask why his constituents who voted for him could not 'benefit' from the policies and 'vision' they voted for.

Result, we didn't vote for him but get him; his constituents voted for him but don't get him. And he obviously doesn't get England.

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As a Scottish nationalist, I

As a Scottish nationalist, I agree wholeheartedly with the idea and sentiment, but why "grubby Scottish mitts"?

"Grubby Unionist mitts" would have been more accurate. Gordon Brown is no friend of Scotland. With an independent Scotland he’s out of a job.

English and Scottish nationalists have much in common: we are both campaigning for an end to the busted flush of UK Inc.

England has a rich history, as does Scotland. We shouldn’t have to define who are by who we hate. We’d be here all day.

Fair point Matt, but you have

Fair point Matt, but you have to put yourself in our (the English) position, we are the fall guys in this cock up.
You (Scotland) are recognised as a Nation State, have a Scottish parliament and a certain degree of self rule, plus your own first ministers who speak for Scotland.
What has England got...sod all...no recognition as a nation state, no first minister of any kind to speak on our behalf, no English parliament, an unelected wanker running the show, so don't be surprised if we aim our frustrations and anger at the nearest target which is, unfortuately, the "auld enemy", in times past arms have been taken up to resolve situation like this, so a bit of bad mouthing harms nobody but gets rid of bad feelings till the mess is sorted!.

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